Are Lay Reports Creepy?

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Lay reports have been around since the early days of mASF. Hell, cavemen probably chiseled crude drawings depicting their sexual conquests on the walls of caves back in the stone age.

But just like with the Flinstone’s cigarette commercial, just because something was acceptable back in the day doesn’t necessarily mean it should be acceptable today.

I was looking at the rules for posting on Tenmagnet’s new messageboard and rule four is no lay reports

4 - No “lay reports”, seriously, do you know how tacky, lame and creepy a “lay report” is? If you want to brag, try and be discrete about it and do it in passing. If you want to write first-person amateur p0rn, there are other websites for that. Your posts will be deleted.

He even brought out the community’s big gun; calling something or someone “creepy”.

Isn’t Sinn, a former Love Systems instructor himself, the “king of lay reports”? He claims he is even writing lay report book. Based on Tenmagnet’s rule, does that make Sinn tacky, lame and creepy?

I personally do not have issues with lay reports if they are done right. The problem is 99% of them are done WRONG.

They should be vague about or omit details that don’t matter and they should be very specific about details that do. They should be brief and the reader should actually learn something from reading it otherwise it is pointless.

I do agree with Tenmagnet that too many guys use lay reports as a way of bragging about getting laid. Usually when I read one that is rather plain I think that the writer is a real wanker rather than a winner. Almost everyone has sex.. to spend 15 minutes typing up a report about a by-the-books lay makes me think you don’t get laid much.

Now here’s some examples of my impressions of good and bad lay reports…

Here’s a Sinn lay report that I think the reader can learn from. Sinn describes the stacked routines that he used and also how he overcame a cockblock put on by another guy at the bar.

It was short, to the fact and educational.

On the flip side, here’s a “video lay report” by Johnny Wolf that I deem worthless…

He spends 20 seconds talking about the approach itself and the rest of the time talking about shit I don’t really care about.

The only point he makes is that trying to get laid should not be that complex, sometimes it is as simple as telling a girl that you want her legs over your shoulders…

Yeah, maybe if she happens to be a Vegas hooker :)

I digress…

In summary, I think Tenmagnet brings up an interesting point…

I don’t think lay reports necessarily HAVE to be creepy but a lot of them are.

You should NOT write lay reports to puff out your chest, brag and to make yourself feel good.

You should write lay reports to help others learn from your experience.

To read *good* lay reports, check out Sinn’s Lay Report Book

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  • Matt Savage
    September 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    The big issue I have with lay reports or any type of field report is that a lot of them are freakin’ looonnnggg and boring. Writing a field report is like writing a good story, except it’s supposed to be true. You don’t waste the readers time with what you ate for breakfast that morning or what brand razor he used to shave with before sarging. A good field report should cut out all the useless details and get straight to the point. Also, as you said, there should be something of value in the report as well, otherwise it’s just a waste of time writing it.

    As for lay reports being creepy, well, I’m not sure where I stand on that yet. I think they can be done in a tasteful manner, something which I try to do on my own blog. Although for me it’s more about crafting a good piece of writing than a “report” style post. The aim is to engage and entertain the reader as opposed to bragging about lays.

  • Im an asshole 2
    September 9th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    “You should NOT write lay reports to puff out your chest, brag and to make yourself feel good. You should write lay reports to help others learn from your experience.”

    Gotta call bullshit on this one, Mack.

    Do you seriously think guys “learn” one iota from lay reports? Of course it’s for bragging and who gives a shit?

    LRs are only creepy if the guy who’s writing them is creepy. Like Johnny Wolf…or my Dad.

  • Bobby Rio
    September 10th, 2008 at 9:38 am

    If someone wants to brag about some pussy he finally got.. so be it.

    I only write a lay report if its a fun interesting story… at this point i find it more amusing to write about my fuckups than my lays… their just more entertaining.

    I disagree with the commenter above.. i think there is some stuff you can learn from a lay report.

  • Revolver Ocelot
    September 10th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Hmm, Lay Reports. I never participated in those. But I do know that they are of good use for the guy who wants a guide into bed. They also seem to be of good use for the guy that wants to celebrate his lay. Which I think is fine. But it does go too far when every time some guy gets a lil something he runs to the lap top to tell his story of glory. The point of the report is to reflect and teach.

    This video report…was not good. As a matter of fact, it was a report on his approach and body language. There was not one bit of the verbal and physical escalation that happened prior to sex. Which I believe is what people who don’t know…need to know. I still give mystery and R. Jeffries mad props for being the few who don’t forget to include all that.

    Other than that, he was right about just needing some guts. Sometimes it on instantly and there’s not much you need to do besides approach.

    Hope Lives

    Rev O.

  • Sinn
    September 10th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    I think LRs are the best way to learn as they give you a breakdown of what actually worked.

    The LR book is scheduled to be out this Sun the 14th though we are having MAJOR website issues.

    Nevertheless it will be available very soon and is packed with over 30 LRs from guys like Brad P, Vh1’s The Pick Up Artist’s Jdog, Savoy, Captain Jack, In10se(twotimer), Mehow and many many more.

    I’m really proud of it, as it’s the book I would have wanted when I was on the come up.



  • Revolver Ocelot
    September 10th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    That sounds tight.

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