It happened: we got called out on being “pick up artists” like on that VH1 show

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I knew ahead of time that VH1’s “The Pick Up Artist” was going to raise awareness of the seduction community. I thought it might become an issue in Los Angeles or Miami but I naively thought that we would be immune from it in Milwaukee. I guess I must have thought that no one watched VH1 in Milwaukee or something. Yes, I am stupid at times.

Last night was the first night Vedran and I sarged together for about a month. A two-set was opened and after talking to the target for almost ten minutes, the other girl chimed in about the person being a “pick up artist” like on the VH1 show. It lead to the demise of that approach.

I was a moron for not thinking about dealing with such a situation before this. Even if it wasn’t for the VH1 show this day would still come eventually.

Sure you can just move on to the next set and venue. But it got me to think what about the opening and later conversation allowed this woman to know that we studied pick up. Also, how should you deal with such an issue when it happens again.

I’ll share what I came up with in a new post tomorrow.




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  • Matt Savage
    October 4th, 2007 at 11:28 am

    This is interesting, I’ve seen other PUA bloggers talking about this too. In particular Sinn in his latest post mentions that a bunch of his students were also being called out on being a pua.

    I’ve been out sarging a lot in the past several weeks and haven’t been called out once, with the exception of a few girls asking if I was a “playa” but I’m sure they weren’t referring to the show.

    Just out of curiosity, were you guys using straight up mystery method with the usual opinion openers? What do you think was it that tipped them off that you were pickup artists?

  • Vedran
    October 4th, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    I was using a combo of classic mystery method mixed with cocky funny shit. I think what my problem was is the fact that I didn’t work the obstacles enough and therefore ran some canned stuff and thusly, the girl that did see the show was tipped off and said that she’d seen it before. It was my mistake that I’ve corrected since.

  • Wisdom
    October 5th, 2007 at 11:47 am

    It happened to me the other night as well. I walked by her, turned my head and asked if I could get her opinion on something. She called me out but I handled it pretty well and went about my normal routine without any problems. I told her I had seen parts of it but didn’t understand the concept. It’s not going to be the last time that happens so if you experiment and have a great response to that let me know.

  • seattlewilly
    October 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    I never use opinion openers. The best opener is a situational openers.

    I had this girl open me one night in a Seattle club and I actually reversed it on her. I said “Wait… are you a pickup artist?” She laughed and said she saw that show and thought the show was phony.

    Situational openers are the only way to go. Congruence is also key. If you don’t believe what you say, it is like walking into a set and farting.

    Peace

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